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SpaceMonkey
30-05-07, 09:54 AM
I know it's not a Trophy, but I respect & prefer this place to CS tbh.

The front PE's on my 182 are well....... shot would be a good word.
There is only about 1mm of tread above the wear indicators & I can feel they are past their peak performance. Here lies the dilemma.

PE's are roughly テつ」100 per corner fitted through my tried & tested tyre contact, where as Paradas are テつ」80 a corner fitted.
So do I spend テつ」200 on 2 front PE's or spend another テつ」120 & have 4 new tyres?

Also, this is a daft question & I know I should be shot for asking, but are my tyres illegal below the wear indicators or do I have a couple of mm grace?

Thanks in advance
Lee :wink:

hoolio
30-05-07, 10:24 AM
Think it's 1.6 mm across the centre, so below the markers, i think, but others have said performance goes out of the window well before this.

Steve
30-05-07, 10:48 AM
No, if they're down to the wear indicators then they're illegal, this is what the markers are for,

Get PE2's, shop around, you will get them for less than テつ」100 each, CostCo i've heard are the cheapest, テつ」80 each?

I'm a great believer in sticking with the tyres the chassis was designed for, if you've got track suspension then fit track tyres, otherwise stick with what is known to everybody as a great all-round tyre.

hoolio
30-05-07, 10:53 AM
What depth are the markers then? I thought you had some leeway.

SpaceMonkey
30-05-07, 10:54 AM
No, if they're down to the wear indicators then they're illegal, this is what the markers are for,

Get PE2's, shop around, you will get them for less than テつ」100 each, CostCo i've heard are the cheapest, テつ」80 each?

I'm a great believer in sticking with the tyres the chassis was designed for, if you've got track suspension then fit track tyres, otherwise stick with what is known to everybody as a great all-round tyre.

:cry: Expensive weekend ahoy then.

There isn't a CostCo locally tbh Steve & by the time I'd have them collected/sent & paid for fitting & balancing it would work out roughly the same too :?

I've had no probs with the PE's tbh, but fancied trying the Yokos. I even had a set of Parada's waiting for the CTR before I sold it.

Decisions decisions

hoolio
30-05-07, 11:16 AM
http://www.safermotoring.co.uk/ChoosingTyres.html

The wear indicators are a sign that your tyres are about to become illegal. Sorry to be pedantic. :wink:

SpaceMonkey
30-05-07, 11:25 AM
http://www.safermotoring.co.uk/ChoosingTyres.html

The wear indicators are a sign that your tyres are about to become illegal. Sorry to be pedantic. :wink:

:lol: Picky git.

Thanks for the info though mate ;)

Decided I'll give the Parada's a whirl. I don't really drive in the wet & also means I will have 2 very good condition PE's as spares should the worst happen (Fingers crossed, touch wood).

I'll let you know how they feel after a couple of hundred miles :wink:

g40steve
30-05-07, 11:28 AM
What do you mean, you don't drive on wet roads????

Must live in a different country to the rest of us :D

SpaceMonkey
30-05-07, 11:37 AM
What do you mean, you don't drive on wet roads????

Must live in a different country to the rest of us :D

Read it again properly mate :wink:

But I know what your getting at, the car is only really used @ weekends & occasionally in the week.

Cue
30-05-07, 12:48 PM
i like to get reports on people trying different tyres, I liked the Yoko A539's, they weren't as good in the wet but there's not alot that are.

George runs Hancooks I believe - he's posted some good reports on them. Stick some TOYO's on possibly, they've had good reports.

SpaceMonkey
30-05-07, 01:00 PM
i like to get reports on people trying different tyres, I liked the Yoko A539's, they weren't as good in the wet but there's not alot that are.

George runs Hancooks I believe - he's posted some good reports on them. Stick some TOYO's on possibly, they've had good reports.

I should have em on Saturday morning & will be nicely bedding in after my jaunt to Northampton.

Toyo's won't suit imo especially after going from the PE's. The sidewalls are too soft on the Toyo for the Clio imo.

theo
30-05-07, 01:31 PM
Protyre did me some PE2's for テつ」75 each! Shop about!

oliie
30-05-07, 01:38 PM
Stick to the PE2s.. no point in having a great car with crap(ish) tyres.

Go for myTyres.co.uk - you'll get them delivered really quickly and you can fit them on the weekend. Plus at テつ」80 they're similar to the Paradas - you only need to pay to fit them.

Cheers
O.

SpaceMonkey
30-05-07, 02:28 PM
Cheers Theo & Ollie for the ideas & comments :wink:

I'm gonna see what he can do on the PE's when I speak to him tomorrow.

Ollie - I DEFO need before travelling up the M1 tbh mate. I'm not sure mytyres would get them here in time.

PPTom
30-05-07, 06:31 PM
In the same boat as you monkey! where are the paradas for テつ」80 fitted? I'll be after some soon. and whats the wisdom on different tyres front and rear, as I only need a front two?

Cool Hand Luke
30-05-07, 06:32 PM
Not sure i'd agree with Ollie's comment on the Parada's being crap(ish) tyres - i've heard very good things about them. I'm sure someone on here went from PE2's to Parada's - Jzink maybe? Possible that they could give you their opinion on the two different tyres.

Personally i'd be inclined to stick with the PE2's and would agree with Steve's comments above about the chassis and tyre match up.

What about going for 2 Parada's and see what you think of them? If they aint up to scratch you could always punt them on here or cliosport - and if they are good you've saved a few quid and can think about getting another two in a while.

Just my thoughts n ramblings :)

oliie
30-05-07, 06:41 PM
Not sure i'd agree with Ollie's comment on the Parada's being crap(ish) tyres

In my personal opinion the PE2s are perfect.. so there is no point in compromising, especially to save a few quid here and there.

Multiply how many miles you get out of your tyres: (you're likely to get more from the PE2s than Paradas from memory as they're a softer compound, but this fact notwithstanding) saving テつ」20ish pounds for a tyre that will cover 10,000 miles over its lifetime is just false economy (that's 0.002p per mile).

Why compromise 0.002p per mile to buy Paradas if the PE2s are generally regarded as better?

Just my two cents...

O.

PPTom
30-05-07, 06:47 PM
who can say they are better? anyone tried both?

oliie
30-05-07, 09:36 PM
who can say they are better? anyone tried both?

I've had (not on the Trophy): Pradas, ContiSport Contact 2 & 3, GoodYear F1, Dunlop Sports, Toyos and Bridgestone S02 & S03. Of all of these the PE2s in my opinion have proven to be fantastic. The car really does seem made for them.

O.

Steve
30-05-07, 10:57 PM
All I can compare are PE2's and worn PE2's. So all I can say is the Trophy is utterly dependent on decent grip, after the fronts got near the indicators the handling was a joke, especially in the wet. If you've still not driven your Trophy with new PE2's I suggest you go out and get some pronto, it will feel like a different car, unbelievable grip for what are pretty hard-wearing road tyres. I just wouldn't bother with anything else, if it ain't broke...

DaveTrophy
30-05-07, 11:26 PM
Just had 2 new PE2s fitted today.

I thought the old ones were doing reasonably well considering how worn they were, UNTIL I fitted the new ones, then I realised how crap the old ones actually were lol.

74 quid each I got them for.

The tread wear indicators are usually at 2mm IIRC, then 1.6 is the legal limit.

fazedesign
31-05-07, 12:00 AM
Old PE2's to new PE2's is a night and day difference... I'm going to get my tyres replaced on Monday and an currently debating the PE2/parada choice, having had yoko's on previous car and really liked them. Still 50/50 as to which I'll go for!

SpaceMonkey
31-05-07, 09:21 AM
:?

Now I'm really stumped!!!

A provided a friend with a MCS with a full set of new Paradas & he said he was shocked how much grip they offer in the dry :twisted:

The PE's were good before they went off so dunno whether to try something new or try again with fresh PE's :?:

Cue
31-05-07, 09:41 AM
buy another set of wheels get paradas fitted to one set, pe2's to the another, run them back to back and sell the set that you don't want for a profit.

SpaceMonkey
31-05-07, 09:44 AM
buy another set of wheels get paradas fitted to one set, pe2's to the another, run them back to back and sell the set that you don't want for a profit.

:lol: If I had the money I'd treat myself to a set of Trophy Turini's. but funds won't allow it @ the mo & don't think the missus will be too impressed either tbh.

Swaying to the Paradas more & more for some reason.....

SpaceMonkey
31-05-07, 02:07 PM
Right - I've gone with the Paradas.

If worst comes to the worst I can sell em on & go back to PE's.

I will let you know my thoughts after the weekend gang.

Thanks again for all your help :wink:

Steve
31-05-07, 04:13 PM
I thought Speedline Corse's were only about テつ」150 each? Is that expensive for wheels? I don't know.

oliie
31-05-07, 04:15 PM
:?

Now I'm really stumped!!!

A provided a friend with a MCS with a full set of new Paradas & he said he was shocked how much grip they offer in the dry :twisted:


That is because the MCS comes with run-flats as standard which are crap. So anything is going to be an improvement on them! My other half had a MCS BTW before I get the question about whether I've driven a MCS with run-flats! And yes, they really were crap (but not as bad as the seats which had no support at all).

O.

SpaceMonkey
31-05-07, 04:16 PM
The Turini's are only テつ」160ish each with VAT iirc, but that on top of tyres would be alot to shell out for this month (Too many social events going on).

Something I may look @ later on :wink:

cosmicremedy
20-08-07, 02:34 PM
I had to buy new tryes for mine as soon as i bought it about 6 weeks ago. I went for the PE's, they're not cheap, but hey... Glad i just got em now :)